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  1975—Were You Affected By What 1975 Was Supposed to Bring?

  by minimus in

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  for years , we were told to wait until 1975!.

  the end was coming and we better be ready—or else!.

  were you around during this “momentous “ time??

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  Twenty years from now it will be little more than a legend, with only a few octogenarian JWs who lived through it, and who listens to old people? The myth of "brothers running ahead" will be cemented in place.

  What I have now read was CT Russell also said that 1914 would be the end of the system but when it came and went without any indecent, the society did their revisionist BS. I recall in the 60's and 70's how some of the old Bible Students that fell away after 1914 were looked at as apostates because they remembered the false prophecies. We were told then not to believe these people because they are all lies. Now what I know, they were not lies but more of the societies revisionist of what the society said then.

  
  
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  1975—Were You Affected By What 1975 Was Supposed to Bring?

  by minimus in

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  for years , we were told to wait until 1975!.

  the end was coming and we better be ready—or else!.

  were you around during this “momentous “ time??

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  Of course the quote was "Stay Alive until 75!"

  I remember and elderly brother, kind man that everyone in the congregation loved. He was dying of cancer in 1974 and he would say "if only I can hold out till 1975, then I will be in the new system and cured of my sickness." Poor man died in 1975 still holding onto hat hope.
  
  
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  1975—Were You Affected By What 1975 Was Supposed to Bring?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  for years , we were told to wait until 1975!.

  the end was coming and we better be ready—or else!.

  were you around during this “momentous “ time??

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  I like many on here lived through those years and yes the hype was there but if you talk to J Dubs now they have a revisionist view as to what happened or didn't happen. That was the last straw for me.
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  Asylum Caravan

  by dubstepped in

  1. social
  2. current

  alright, so what is the deal with the thousands coming to the states right at election time seeking asylum?

  i'm not up on this, usually try not to be, but how can this not be manipulative?

  it's either manipulative in the size of the group and pressure that creates, or in where it started or who started this, etc.

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  Just let the border patrol take care of this non issue. Vet them and if they meet the refugee criteria, give them get refugee status.
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  Have you ever considered trying ancestry.com?

  by minimus in

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  i was recently given a gift of ancestry.com and i’m curious if anyone else has used this service?.

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  The trick is to double-check information from the research of others before accepting it as absolute.

  I have being doing genealogical research now for almost 40 years. The above comment is correct. Do not take he research of others as being accurate unless they can back it up with documentation. Family stories are a good starting point to know where to look but once again verify it with documentation.
  
  
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  JW compassion?

  by William Penwell in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have a nephew that has just recently being diagnosed with a life threatening disease through bad choices he has made in his life over the last 20 years.

  now he has asked myself and my sons to be there for him and without being judgemental we have being up at the hospital every other day for the last couple of weeks.

  now this is the part where i am just pissed right off.. one of my nephews other cousins goes to the hospital and starts giving him a guilt trip, saying that this was all his own fault that she couldn't talk to him for the last 20 years and his sickness now is all because he left jehooba organization blah blah blah.

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  My non-JW partner who has had very limited exposure to JW literature, accompanied me to the film Apostasy. Afterwards I was curious about his thoughts on the film. “Very pharasaical” were his only words. I have heard these words from other nonJWs too. In other words, a complete absence of compassion.
  Interesting that among the first things nonJWs notice when seeing what happens at a Kingdom Hall is how closely the instruction and processes (eg., judicial committees, requiring proven repentance, etc) mirror Old Testament rules and regulations - minus the brutal bloodshed, I guess.

  My experience to with people that have not being brought up in the organization. They cannot believe that a so called Christian religion can be so judgemental.
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  JW compassion?

  by William Penwell in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have a nephew that has just recently being diagnosed with a life threatening disease through bad choices he has made in his life over the last 20 years.

  now he has asked myself and my sons to be there for him and without being judgemental we have being up at the hospital every other day for the last couple of weeks.

  now this is the part where i am just pissed right off.. one of my nephews other cousins goes to the hospital and starts giving him a guilt trip, saying that this was all his own fault that she couldn't talk to him for the last 20 years and his sickness now is all because he left jehooba organization blah blah blah.

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  The JWs have no compassion. The only goal is to get to Armageddon.

  There is something seriously wrong with an organization that finds delight in destruction of any human beings, although the JDubs are not the only religion that finds joy in the destruction of others.

  
  
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  Masionic Rings worn on right hand.

  by WildSteve in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  did anybody see august 2018 broadcasting yet?

  masionic rings always worn on the right hand little finger, these are gatekeep rings.. brother let shows his in a big way, and then the other old brother who was in prison in spain, when he tells his story they realy make a big deal on his gatekeeper masionic ring on his little finger of his right hand..

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  I think why this is such a big issues with the Evangelists, born again wack jobs, tin foil hat wearers, is they think the Free Masons are some sort of demonic organization. By trying to link the JW's up to the Free Masons, they are trying to say they are also a demonic organization. Like others on here mentioned on here there is a lot wrong with the JW's but as far as the GB belong to the Free Masons, there is no proof.
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  Stats just out: JWs in Wales decline (-3.4%) - COs primed for zero baptisms!

  by Darth FayDehr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  figures from that latest 2-weekend convention in caridff (wales) reveal jw “growth” now in decline.

  baptisms are discouragingly low (21, combined), and circuit overseers have been primed to deal with assemblies where there are no baptisms; see these leaked 2018 instructions:.

  pdf summary: https://1drv.ms/b/s!arekzxkzlp8ybsl45pov7y6k26a.

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  Made my day
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  JW compassion?

  by William Penwell in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have a nephew that has just recently being diagnosed with a life threatening disease through bad choices he has made in his life over the last 20 years.

  now he has asked myself and my sons to be there for him and without being judgemental we have being up at the hospital every other day for the last couple of weeks.

  now this is the part where i am just pissed right off.. one of my nephews other cousins goes to the hospital and starts giving him a guilt trip, saying that this was all his own fault that she couldn't talk to him for the last 20 years and his sickness now is all because he left jehooba organization blah blah blah.

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  If they cannot just visit the sick individual and give them moral support in their time of need without being judgemental, then stay the f*** away.